
Dylan Gemelli
Guest on The Dr. Josh Axe Show ยท Guest on The Dylan Gemelli Podcast ยท Host of The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
Dylan Gemelli is a fitness and biohacking educator, former bodybuilder, and hormone optimization specialist known for his work on cellular health, longevity, and performance enhancement. He is the creator and host of The Dylan Gemelli Podcast, where he interviews leading experts across health, wellness, and neuroscience. Gemelli also runs DG Fitness LLC and builds a large online audience through his health, fitness, and biohacking content.
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A Simple Guide to Being Alive๐ Recommends
โฆdiscussing dr. rabin's upcoming book on spirituality, neuroscience, and integrating eastern and western medicine
โBut what I'm most excited to talk about you today is the new book that is going to be coming out soon. We're going to give you some insight on that and the topics that are covered. There's some stuff in there that just excites me to no end. And it's called A Simple Guide to Being Alive.โ
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Apollo Neuro๐ Recommends
โฆwearable device for vagus nerve stimulation and stress reduction
โThat's kind of like the Apollo here. We both wore that, that helps me stimulate my vagus nerve. And I want to talk to you and I'm going to pull these out now because I, I look for, as you do companies that are smaller, newer, innovative.โ
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Apollo Neuro๐ Recommends
โฆdiscussing vagus nerve stimulation tools for nervous system health and parasympathetic activation
โYou know, I use Apollo neuro. I don't know if you're familiar with that with not, but Dr. Rabin is the one that kind of taught me the aspects I was missing on the neuroscience side. So I learned from him and that that's a vagus nerve stimulator.โ
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Betaine๐ Recommends
โฆdiscussing evidence-based natural supplements for muscle building
โMe and Sean Wells today, we discussed the best protocol that was the safest for gaining size and strength. Natural supplement ones. So obviously creatine, betaine, HMB. These were three absolute essential that we have to take that were all safe and effective to use.โ
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Boutesamorin๐ Recommends
โฆpeptide for lean muscle building as alternative to anabolic steroids
โYou could have easily just taken some natural stacks of things. Dilucine, betaine, creatine, tried some different things with foods, even some peptides that are actually good for lean muscle building. Boutesamorin. Boutesamorin. My favorite.โ
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Carol Bike๐ Recommends
โฆintroducing the carol bike and how rehit training works efficiently
โSo, you may already know once you hear the name of the company, but we're going to give you some of his credentials. So, he's the CEO and co-founder of Carol. And this is built on his background in mechanical engineering to develop the world's only reduced exertion high intensity interval training bike. He heads up all aspects of product development at Carol from the data to the science to software and hardware. So, he is exactly the person that I wanted to talk to because I've been using the Carol bike, fell in love with it, then met him and really fell in love with it because he's so awesome.โ
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Cayenne Pepper๐ Recommends
โฆspice for flavoring meat and adding health benefits
โI use a lot of cayenne pepper and chives is what I kind of use on my ground beef and meats and stuff and even my eggs and everything. Those are all great that you mentioned because a lot of people just, I feel like they just use salt and pepper and that's it.โ
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Creatine๐ Recommends
โฆdiscussing creatine supplementation for muscle preservation during weight loss protocols
โI think everybody over the age of 10 to 12 should be taking creatine, and I think anybody that's on GLP-1, it should... You know when you get peptides and it comes with bacteriostatic water to reconstitute the peptide? I think it should just be a mandatory thing that goes along with your GLP-1 as you take five grams of creatine a day.โ
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Creatine๐ Recommends
โฆdiscussing supplementation for muscle and mental health during perimenopause
โOne of the things I talk about, especially lately is implementing creatine use, not just for the muscle, which that's the obvious, but then the right up here. And I think that a lot of people are now catching on to the creatine benefits for the mental side, but then a couple other things that I have been working on or talking about one is higher protein intake to build the muscle.โ
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Cregatine๐ Recommends
โฆrecommending creatine and GAA combination supplement product
โI just thought of my friend's company actually, Unmatched, Chris Geffen. Yeah. It was the face of bodybuilding.com back in the day. I've loved them for years. He has a product called Cregatine. I've taken it. I love it. And it has creatine GAA in it. And yeah, so that is a product that you can take.โ
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D-Ribose๐ Recommends
โฆnatural supplements for heart health and low ejection fraction management
โAnyway, I, I kept track. My wife will tell you that I was peeing like 18 times a day. I can't, I can't imagine. Well, and imagine the type of training I do. Anyway, I, I went through, I try to do natural stacks to help this. So D-ribose is a big one. High dose ubiquinol, but SS 31 is big time.โ
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D-Ribose๐ Recommends
โฆcardiac energy support supplement for ejection fraction improvement
โAnd I will tell you, I had that episode in June and I got the echo done and my ejection fraction was 44. And I had it tested again about three and a half months after I started Jardience and I'm taking D-ribose powder and high ubiquinol with it.โ
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Echo Hydrogen Water Bottle๐ Recommends
โฆdiscussing current hydrogen water consumption method using Echo bottle
โSo I just use the water bottle and I do like four or five times a day. It's kind of what I've been doing. I do it. If you're using one of the, I think you're using the Echo. The Echo water bottle. Yeah. I think, make sure you hear a pressure release. Yeah.โ
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Force of Nature๐ Recommends
โฆancestral beef blends with organ meats added into beef, elk, venison, and bison
โSo like I do force in nature cause they have that really nice, um, they do a great job. Yeah. With the liver and the heart, they add into their, their elk and their beef and their, their venison. So you can get it all right. And the bison. So that's, and it tastes better actually. But for you to do it that way. No, no. But here's something that's, I'm so glad you brought up force in nature cause that's a great product. They're a great brand. This is what I'm about to say is no judgment around them. Cause I love them and I use them.โ
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Force of Nature Ancestral Meats๐ Recommends
โฆdiscussing organ meat sourcing for nutrient density
โI have the force of nature ancestral meats as well. Yeah. So I always get the liver and heart in there. It is so damn good. Yeah. I literally do that five days a week, man.โ
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HMB๐ Recommends
โฆdiscussing evidence-based natural supplements for muscle building
โMe and Sean Wells today, we discussed the best protocol that was the safest for gaining size and strength. Natural supplement ones. So obviously creatine, betaine, HMB. These were three absolute essential that we have to take that were all safe and effective to use.โ
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Injury Joint and Recovery Blueprint๐ Recommends
โฆeducational resource on peptide protocols for injury recovery
โThe Injury Joint and Recovery Blueprint explains where peptides like KPV fit and why controlling inflammation unknown isn't enough. You got to get the Joint and Injury Recovery Blueprint and read that and learn about it.โ
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Ipamorelin๐ Recommends
โฆgrowth hormone secretagogue peptide for muscle and body composition
โBut ipomoralin is, and that's one I left out, is probably the, I don't know, I would say old reliable because it does a little bit of everything. I like that one as well.โ
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Jardianceance๐ Recommends
โฆSGLT2 inhibitor medication for heart health and blood glucose control
โI do question then moving forward, since we're talking about heart and everything. So what's your opinion on SGLT2 inhibitors like Jardians? Do you have any opinion or thought on those? Because a lot of the people in my realm disagree on a lot, but they all agree on Jardians and I'm taking Jardians for a specific need.โ
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Jinfiniti NMN Chewable๐ Recommends
โฆdiscussing palatability and consistency of taking NMN chewable product
โWell, I'm not going to forget that chewable you gave me because it tastes so damn good and I don't ever get any treats. So that's like a little treat to me. So I'll never forget that. I can promise you, as long as my wife stops stealing it, I'll have plenty.โ
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Jinfiniti Turmeric Creatine๐ Recommends
โฆdiscussing various Jinfiniti product formulations and their benefits
โI use their turmeric creatine and of course my favorite in the world the chewables but you do have other forms of you have a powder firm and this is NMN I'm going to point one thing out here that I love too is on this one because you also have creatine D-ribose and niacinamide in this it makes it even strongerโ
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Kaizotrex๐ Recommends
โฆoral testosterone replacement therapy form
โNow there's kaizotrex, which is an oral form, which actually is quite good. I actually have learned quite a bit from the founder of kaizotrex and I've interviewed him on my podcast and there's a lot of efficacy there and I'm trying it now and it works quite well.โ
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Kerrygold Butter๐ Recommends
โฆgrass-fed butter for cooking used in high-fat diet approach
โI swear to you, I missed out on so many years. I still keep saying, cause I literally cook every single damn thing in Kerrygold butter now. And I am so mad at myself for the past 20 years of suffering of thinking that I was going to get fat eating butter. And now I'm thinner and more cut than I've ever been aside from steroid use, like seriously. And I eat a thousand some more calories than I was having literally, but it's all, I do a really higher fat diet now.โ
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Kion Amino Acids๐ Recommends
โฆamino acid supplement company founded by guest known for clean ingredients
โHe is the co-founder and CEO of Keon, which happens to be one of my favorite companies. And they are a supplement company focused on helping people look good, feel young, be strong. The supplement world is very polarizing and tricky with marketing. When I was approached about having Angelo on, given he is the owner of Kion, I was highly skeptical. After talking with him, seeing his passion, care and immense knowledge base along with seeing how much time, money and effort were put into the Kion brand, particularly the amino acids, it was a no brainer to have him on! What I love about this interview is that his company is based around his TRUE LOVE for the science and the benefits, not the profit.โ
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Lumen Breath Analyzer๐ Recommends
โฆdevice for measuring metabolic flexibility and fuel utilization
โI like to measure my breath in the morning to see how my flexibility is and what I'm burning and everything. If you're a constant... The lumen. Oh, you're using the lumen. Yeah. You used to use that a lot. Yeah. I practice. Yeah, I love it. Just because I like to know, okay, sleep affects if you wake up.โ
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MAKE YOUR OWN: 120+ Minimally Processed, Oil-Free, Wheat-Free, Sugar-Free, Plant-based Recipes๐ Recommends
โฆintroducing javant benton and his new cookbook about plant-based healthy recipes
โHe's a content creator. He's a self-taught cook and healthy eating and lifestyle advocate. And he's been doing this well over 15 years. He has a book coming out that we're going to get into this month that is going to really highlight his craft and what he does. And I really urge everybody to check this out. I've been blessed to see a little bit ahead of time. And this man knows his stuff. So, I want to present to you my new friend, Javon Benton.โ
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MOTC๐ Recommends
โฆmitochondrial protection peptide for energy and cellular health
โSo MOTC, I'm a huge fan of. Yeah. MOTC, especially if you're using Reda, like that's the ultimate combination that Reda True Tide, um, you'll keep your, your mitochondrial function up. You'll keep your cellular energy up.โ
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Magnesium Glycinate๐ Recommends
โฆdiscussing magnesium supplementation for sleep support during perimenopause
โSome type of magnesium, whether it's threonate, malate, glycinate. I'm a big glycinate girl. Too. That's for sleep and, and we all need that little sleepy, sleepy mocktail before going to bed.โ
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Metabolic Flexibility by Ben Azadi๐ Recommends
โฆmentioning ben azadi book about metabolic flexibility and gratitude
โI don't know if you know Ben Azadi or not, but he has a really good book. He talks about metabolic flexibility. He's a big, big timer on here. And he told me when I was interviewing him, one of the things that everybody's missing is a certain vitamin and it's called vitamin G and that's vitamin of gratitude.โ
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Methylated B Vitamins๐ Recommends
โฆdiscussing b vitamin supplementation for women in perimenopause
โI am a big fan of activated methylated B vitamins. Those women are deficient there.โ
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Milk Thistle๐ Recommends
โฆdiscussing milk thistle and liver support supplements
โAnd then so, yeah, so milk thistle or a good liver supplement that's kind of hitting, because you can just get a good liver support supplement that's got a lot of the polyphenols and the milk thistle in there.โ
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Nanokinase๐ Recommends
โฆsupplement for managing calcified plaque and cardiovascular health
โBut I do take a lot. I have pretty high dose. I have not gotten scans since I started taking a high dose of nanokinase. And it's probably been three years. So like, I wanted to go get a earlier, clearly done like last year. And they're like, really please wait every five years. You can't do that much radiation. Dude, I can't wait till next year just to see the nanokinase do anything.โ
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Omega-3 Fish Oil๐ Recommends
โฆdiscussing omega fatty acids and probiotic supplementation for health
โOmegas. Big one. I love a good probiotic. I think it's important. I think our gut microbiome is all the help it can get.โ
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Omega-3s๐ Recommends
โฆomega-3 supplementation for health
โI'm with you. I'm with you. I have had such a great conversation with you. I enjoyed every second of this. And with some of these sort of newer supplements where the data and underlying research behind them is really strong. But we don't fully yet know how eating them in the form of a pill, for example, fully plays out in a large population. Like I'm convinced enough that I am taking it. And my question about it, not that specific brand, but just urolithin A in general. And my question on a lot of these things is something like omega-3s or magnesium glycinate or methylated Bs.โ
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Oura Ring๐ฌ Mentioned
โฆintegrating wearable sleep tracking devices to monitor health metrics
โWe also talk about integrating the Apollo Neuro with the Oura Ring and how the data provides huge insight into our sleep and health.โ
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PLUCK๐ Recommends
โฆintroducing organ-based seasoning made from freeze-dried nutrient-dense animal organs
โSo he's the founder of Pluck and I'm sure many of you have heard of it, but if you haven't, you're going to learn a great deal today. And he's the, uh, which is the world's first organ based seasoning. And it makes eating nose to tail, simple and delicious. And I can confirm this a million percent. Pluck is essentially what it became, but I start out just doing liver, but then it became liver, heart, kidney, spleen, pancreas, freeze dried and powdered, a hundred percent grass fed, all the quality. So now you don't have to worry about sourcing. And, and I combine it with salt, organic spices, nerves.โ
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Pomegranate Juice๐ Recommends
โฆnatural approach to reversing arterial plaque buildup
โSo I've done a heavy amount of pomegranate juice. I found a several studies that I looked into that that was able to reverse plaque. Wow. Um, so he's probably, they don't want you to know or see because using pomegranate juice over statins, not really cost effective now, is it?โ
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Pomegranate Juice๐ Recommends
โฆaddressing natural remedies and supplements for cardiovascular and arterial plaque management
โOne of the things that I use that I learned about, uh, in terms of helping to reverse arterial plaque or even stabilize it, et cetera, that I talked to you about before is pomegranate juice. And I've been doing that. Doesn't taste the greatest if you get the right one, but that's one of the things that I've been doing. That's helped me a lot that I actually implement. That's like a small little hack for people to use.โ
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Probiotic๐ Recommends
โฆdiscussing probiotic supplementation for gut microbiome health
โI love a good probiotic. I think it's important. I think our gut microbiome is all the help it can get.โ
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Retatrutide๐ Recommends
โฆtriple GLP-1/GIP/glucagon receptor agonist for metabolic optimization
โRed atrutide smokes everything. It is insane. Right. That one is incredible, but it's right now it's gone from almost all the sites. It's incredible compounds. I have seen tremendous benefits from myself and other people I've worked with, whether you are lean or overweight, you'll see benefits with Retta.โ
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Seatopia Seafood๐ Recommends
โฆdiscussing high quality wild caught seafood sources
โWhen you're using things like Seatopia and these, they're getting the real good stuff. Then you can eat it a couple of times a week.โ
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SkinMedica Even and Correct๐ Recommends
โฆskincare product for hyperpigmentation correction
โI still use certain things. I incorporate a multifaceted regimen. I have some hypopigmentation, so I use like an even and correct, but I stopped using SkinMedica aside from that product.โ
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TONUM Neuro๐ Recommends
โฆdiscussing TONUM neuro supplement containing paraxanthine and alpha-GPC
โBut these are. Tonums products. And I want to talk to you about them because I found them in November at Eudaimonia. And they said, Oh, we know Sean and Sean. And I said, okay, well, legitimacy I'm sold because if Sean's backing it, I'm going to be introduced to it and have interest in it. Now these two neuro and modus I want to talk to you about, cause you brought up parazanthine and I know parazanthine is one of the bigger ingredients in the neuro product.โ
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Tessimorlin๐ Recommends
โฆgrowth hormone secretagogue for body recomposition
โTessimorlin is one of my favorites because of the ability to lose fat and maintain muscle and even build upon the muscle. That's like a recomposition in a bottle type of thing. I look at it as if you're eating right, you know, with it.โ
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The Aesthetic Revolution: Embracing Vanity and the Future of Fitness to Unlock your Healthiest Self๐ Recommends
โฆdiscussing dr. mike israetel's new book on vanity fitness aesthetics
โWe begin this episode getting right into Mike's new book "The Aesthetic Revolution: Embracing Vanity and the Future of Fitness to Unlock your Healthiest Self." Mike discusses the motivation behind writing it and the impact he intends to make with his voice!โ
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The Glutathione Revolution๐ Recommends
โฆdiscussing dr patel's new book on glutathione benefits for health longevity
โHe just came out with an amazing book that we're going to get into and talk about. And it's called The Glutathione Revolution. Fight disease, slow aging and increase energy.โ
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The Imitation of Christ๐ฌ Mentioned
โฆspiritual book about enduring challenges and living faithfully
โAnd I'm sure you've read the book. That was a tough one for me at the time that I think I should reread. And, and, and I was thinking about that today because I, or maybe it was yesterday and there was a little piece of it. It's imitation of Christ and the author's rough, like though, in the approach, like it's rough. Like you read it and you're like, damn man, like this too, like the first time I read it, I was in Florida on vacation and I was reading, I was like, I don't know if I buy this. Like seriously, but you have to be able to endure.โ
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The Inflammation Code๐ Recommends
โฆnew book on ayurveda lifestyle and inflammation management
โShe has a new book, which is one of the main reasons I wanted her to come here and see me because I want each and every one of you to check this book out. And you will have it readily available soon because it's releasing in February. It's called The Inflammation Code.โ
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Timeline Skincare Serum and Cream๐ Recommends
โฆskincare products as part of multifaceted skincare regimen
โI stopped using SkinMedica aside from that product. And then I, you know, Timeline's my biggest partner, so I use their serum and their creams.โ
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Timeline Urolithin A๐ Recommends
โฆdiscussing mitochondrial health supplements and cellular medicine
โMy first big sponsor when I came into the biohacking area was Timeline. And then I learned mitochondria. And I went to Harvard and studied at night. I took a cellular health coaching class with Dr. Elizabeth Yurth. And I made that my focus. And then I kept learning and learning all these different parts of the cell because all I knew was mitochondria, working with urolithin A.โ
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Tirzepatide๐ Recommends
โฆdual GLP-1/GIP receptor agonist for weight loss and metabolic health
โOf all the GLP ones, like semaglutide, you know, which Monjoro and, and Ozempic and then Terzepatide, which is the second generation. Red atrutide smokes everything. It is insane.โ
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Turmeric or Curcumin๐ Recommends
โฆdiscussing antioxidant and liver support supplements for health
โI am a big fan of antioxidant support and liver support. So a good turmeric supplement or curcumin, polyphenols are going to be a big one.โ
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Ubiquinol (Coenzyme Q-10)๐ Recommends
โฆnatural supplements for heart health and low ejection fraction management
โAnyway, I, I went through, I try to do natural stacks to help this. So D-ribose is a big one. High dose ubiquinol, but SS 31 is big time. Yeah, I think so. It is. And that is what I was going to say that I would recommend to look at because Entresto is for me.โ
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Ubiquinol (Coenzyme Q-10)๐ Recommends
โฆcardiac energy support and mitochondrial function enhancement
โAnd I had it tested again about three and a half months after I started Jardience and I'm taking D-ribose powder and high ubiquinol with it. And I was up to 50. I want to be a normal range, which is 55 to 70.โ
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Urolithin A๐ Recommends
โฆdiscussing healthy alternatives to SARMs for mitochondrial biogenesis
โCould you take urolithin A for mitochondria? Could you take other, you know, things that we know that are beneficial? I would much rather go that route.โ
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Urolithin A๐ Recommends
โฆdiscussing essential supplements for mitochondrial health and metabolic support
โWhat else would you say? Cause, okay. So when I brought up like urolithin A. Urolithin A. Very important. Yeah. And then, you know, I. NMN. NMN is the one. Yeah, 100% precursor.โ
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Vaccines Amen๐ Recommends
โฆbook recommendation on vaccine safety and clinical trials by attorney Aaron Siri
โHe sent me his book. He approached me to do the interview and I said, I want to do it, but let me think about it. I got on a plane on the flight. I read half the book and I called my wife when I landed. I said, I don't give a shit. I am doing this interview. I said, this is some of the most troubling stuff that I had ever seen or heard in my life. We sat down three hours and did a full flown interview. And then me and her stayed there till, I don't know, it was like midnight. I was with him like seven hours. Read that book. It's called Vaccines Amen. Yeah. Find it on Amazon.โ
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Vascepa๐ Recommends
โฆhigh-purity omega-3 fish oil supplement for cardiovascular health
โAnd I took Rapatha and Vasepa, which is like the purest form of fish oil and much better form. And I thought, oh, no, man, don't tell me because I never had any side effects that would correlate to having more plaque or blockage.โ
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Vascepa๐ฌ Mentioned
โฆdiscussing omega-3 prescription medication for triglycerides
โHave you heard of vasepa? I take it. I have to. Okay, good. I take it. That's then filling that omega-6 that the 3 is throwing off. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I just slowed it down.โ
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Vascepa๐ Recommends
โฆprescription omega-3 medication for managing triglycerides and cardiovascular health
โAnd I tell them, I want to take a PCSK9 inhibitor. I've already got it laid out. I want Repatha. I want to take Vascepa, knowing that the pure form that it is of what you would take as fish oil, which is another topic we could get into. And them to tell me it would be bad practice to recommend that and to only use a statin, which I indicated will increase the LP little a, caused me more problems than I've ever had.โ
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Young Goose Amplifying Essence๐ Recommends
โฆmulti-functional skincare essence product
โOne of them is this amplifying essence. And because it does such a multitude of things and it's completely different than anything I've ever seen.โ
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Young Goose Cleanser๐ Recommends
โฆgentle skincare cleanser with quality formulation
โAnd I'm a big fan of your cleanser. Yeah. It's very gentle and it's nice on the skin. And I like that because, look, it's kind of like the people that tell me, oh, all protein powders are the same. I'm like, bro, that is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. And it's the same thing with cleansers.โ
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Young Goose Hyperbaric Mask๐ Recommends
โฆintensive skincare mask for quick skin preparation and results
โAnd the other one that I love because I'm a mask guy is this one, this hyperbaric mask. Man, I love this. Because every time I have an important thing, like last night before I did this, I lined myself up and I put this on, you know. And I only use that when I got something really important, you know, coming the day before.โ
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